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ORH to FFH
benhacker99   9/2/2008   
Tidd that an average insurer is worth ~1x book. I simply don't believe that Fairfax is average.  I also think that the competitive environment for FFH despite all the ...
ORH to FFH
niels12think   9/2/2008   
as odd that different standards are in use. If we look at the results of Fairfax growth in book value from Q4 2004 (including dividends) it looks something like Q4 2004&...
are demanding a 40%-50% discount to book in order for a person to trust Fairfax with his money, then which discount to book should a prudent investor demand in order ...
or hedge fund with his investment? After all, the results and long history of Fairfax compared to most or most other investment managers suggests to me that Fairfax is the ...
ORH to FFH
BigBear   9/2/2008   
you have not mentioned?   >>>But acquisitions have always been part of Fairfax's game, so what's the plan going forward? If they are not going to ...
ORH to FFH
SanjeevParsad   9/2/2008   
It is easy to name insurers that did better than Fairfax in 2007 (if that's what you mean by "in the last year"), for example ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
base your analysis upon that. It is easy to name insurers that did better than Fairfax in 2007 (if that's what you mean by "in the last year"), for example ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
You will not see Fairfax at a 50-60% discount to book value <<< That is a pretty ...
ask me. >>> Based on year-end book values relative to market price, the last time Fairfax approached 80% was in 1990 when it finished at 74%. <<< Well fortunately, ...
was closer to 40% of book, I think I got it at around 50-55%. >>> Fairfax today is a completely different company than just three years ago, let alone eight years ...
ORH to FFH
SanjeevParsad   9/2/2008   
the risk free rate is a great way to evaluate the company. Some think that Fairfax will generate sustained underwriting profits in the 3-5% range going forward, but I don'...
the risk free rate. I don't think Berkshire is capable of that, let alone Fairfax or anyone else.      Well I guess we disagree. Fairfax established its business ...
different game by developing insurance franchises like GEICO, BHRG, National Indemnity, etc.   I think Fairfax is already in the top 5%.  Name me any insurer that has done better ...
...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
survival, though I think that time has passed. But acquisitions have always been part of Fairfax's game, so what's the plan going forward? If they are not going to ...
companies is difficult, and becomes more difficult the larger they are. So I wonder if Fairfax is at a size where growth by acquisition is no longer feasible? >>> As for paying ...
ORH to FFH
SanjeevParsad   9/2/2008   
is a good buy and 110-125% of book is overpriced. You will not see Fairfax at a 50-60% discount to book value.  Based on year-end book values ...
relative to market price, the last time Fairfax approached 80% was in 1990 when it finished at 74%.  Fairfax subsequently bought ...
Longleaf does.  Remember, they've held LVLT for as long as they've held Fairfax, and that has not done as well.  You remember LVLT right Tidd? Fairfax today ...
...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
message #104. Just as with Berkshire and other long-term stories, I am skeptical that Fairfax's results in the distant past are relevant to today's company. I think the ...
I believe in admission of the same thing. >>> It seems as though some may expect Fairfax to write business well below a 100% combined ratio. That isn't their long-term ...
the risk free rate is a great way to evaluate the company. Some think that Fairfax will generate sustained underwriting profits in the 3-5% range going forward, but I don'...
...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
or were not an anomaly, I have been trying to dig into the sources of Fairfax's success and problems to try to identify which things may recur and which may ...
about over the last several posts. After a lot of analysis my conclusion is that Fairfax is still in store for more bumps and bruises. I'm just not willing to ...
ORH to FFH
oldye   9/2/2008   
be invested in the top 5% insurers in the years to come. I strongly believe Fairfax is firmly at the top of that list which also includes Berkshire and Markel. Fairfax ...
ORH to FFH
SanjeevParsad   9/2/2008   
nbsp;   Well these are certainly good questions, and something that we should be asking Fairfax management. Their results show that they are slightly underpricing their business and not achieving the ...
was for the cost of float to be less than the risk free rate.  Fairfax has hit that mark over their 20 years.  Now, that they have scale, ...
is to write business at 100%.    It seems as though some may expect Fairfax to write business well below a 100% combined ratio.  That isn't their long-...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
lt;< Well these are certainly good questions, and something that we should be asking Fairfax management. Their results show that they are slightly underpricing their business and not achieving the ...
insurance results tend to get worse the larger the amount of float, and assuming that Fairfax continues to grow its float, it should have more of it over the next 22 ...
Broad insurance industry averages usually indicate a cost of float in the 3-6% range. Fairfax is simply no better and no worse than average, which isn't such a horrible ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
do a few points better than that, say -3% to 0%. <<< Well Fairfax's long term cost of float over 22 years is around 3%, and down from ...
overall results). I don't see any reason to expect results to improve from here. Fairfax is not small any more, and I expect insurance results to get worse as they ...
to that question are all of the reasons that I'm not very excited about Fairfax's prospects. It is interesting to go back over the last 10 years to see ...
David Sokol SC13G filing
tiddman1   9/2/2008   
at some point. This is one of the best areas in the country for banking, Fairfax County is one of the most affluent counties in the country, unemployment is half the ...

ORH to FFH
scorpioncapital   9/1/2008   
browsing the data at bigcharts.com. I know it also doesn't include any dividends. Fairfax has done well, but I'm wondering why share price has, perhaps one can say, ...
ORH to FFH
SanjeevParsad   9/1/2008   
wide margin, something like a 10,000%+ gain versus just under 4000% for FFH.   Fairfax book value 1985 = $1.52 Fairfax book value 2007 = $230.01   Compounded FFH annual ...
Leucadia's dividend and compounded it since 1999, while I have excluded the dividend that Fairfax has been paying.  The only thing I can see you comparing with those numbers ...
nbsp;   I don't know of any insurance company that has returned close to Fairfax from 1985-2007.  Combine that with the mistakes Prem and Fairfax made with TIG ...
ORH to FFH
woodstov   9/1/2008   
couple of things... - Some of the value of Fairfax, or any enterprise, lies in the "pattern" of the business - call it culture, human resources, ...
ORH to FFH
ericopoly   9/1/2008   
posts and you will plainly see that I make comments stating precisely that I think Fairfax is worth more than book due to the value of it's float.  But ...
than book for an insurer -- I am disregarding his advice here as it pertains to Fairfax.   I am afraid you seem to be taking this discussion too personally   Yes, ...
ORH to FFH
oec10210   9/1/2008   
of what you think the float is worth.  I even stated that I believe Fairfax deserves a premium.   True, but you also said:   So, to cut a long ...
ORH to FFH
ericopoly   9/1/2008   
of what you think the float is worth.  I even stated that I believe Fairfax deserves a premium.  So, when you state that banks/insurers sometimes trade above ...
worth more than book.  Yet, that might be at odds with my claim that Fairfax is worth more than book.   You know, I've seen some posts asserting ...
that because Fairfax's leverage is "no cost", or that because it is engaged in an active enterprise ...
ORH to FFH
oec10210   8/31/2008   
I think that it is finally time for <st1:City><st1:place> Fairfax </st1:place></st1:City> to repurchase shares.   Forget the dividend this year. &...
after adding in the off balance sheet value of <st1:City><st1:place> Fairfax </st1:place></st1:City> <st1:place> Asia </st1:place> .   At ...
Advent Capital Deal a No-Go For Now!
mills-man   8/31/2008   
North American financial services company Fairfax has declared their offer unconditional for Lloyd's (re)insurer Advent after receiving an extra ...

ORH to FFH
mills-man   8/30/2008   
position, and you are not negative like brolgalboy was. So we can talk about Fairfax! But we live some hard times in 2003, so i have some convictions...  ...
ORH to FFH
SanjeevParsad   8/29/2008   
that's life!  This is the first and only truly rocky period that Fairfax went through, where the existence of the company and its credibility were contested...even compromised ...
the acquisition of GenRe.  If GenRe had been bigger, the fallout would have rivaled Fairfax's, as they had no future loss reserve insurance from Swiss Re.  Regardless of ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   8/29/2008   
lt; Well most insurers are "two legged", with underwriting and investments being the two legs. Fairfax's main differences from a typical insurer are 1) a focus on run-off operations, ...
is impressive, though I think this is only possible because of their limited scope. Is Fairfax's formula superior? There was a time when it seemed undoubtedly so and the stock ...
be cautious. And not to "put on a cloud", but I have never seen that Fairfax's insurance operations have been exemplary in their results, and if the average industry performance ...
Commutation accounting
ericopoly   8/29/2008   
Quoting from the Fairfax press release regarding Swiss Re commutation -- notice how differently the accounting is between US and ...
Candian?.    http://www.fairfax.ca/Assets/Downloads/Press/fpr2006-07-27.pdf Under Canadian GAAP, the accounting effect of ...

ORH to FFH
mills-man   8/29/2008   
And, if i can add on your post Shah, i think than Fairfax seem to target a Fair price on premium. We have the luxury to do that ...
ORH to FFH
mills-man   8/29/2008   
It seem i'm most optimist on Fairfax than some of you. I hope you are not right, for my portfolio. Are we ...
ORH to FFH
oldye   8/29/2008   
years was somewhere around 105%, and the next 20 years is somewhere around 110%, and Fairfax continues to be unable to avoid average results, the next decade or two could prove ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   8/28/2008   
Well, I've followed Fairfax very closely for about 10 years. I think their real skill is in investing. Frankly, ...
years was somewhere around 105%, and the next 20 years is somewhere around 110%, and Fairfax continues to be unable to avoid average results, the next decade or two could prove ...
pretty tough for them. Structurally, I have always thought that Fairfax was a two-legged stool because both of their operations, insurance and investing, are very ...
...
ORH to FFH
Partner24   8/28/2008   
Tiddman,   Based on this analysis, can you say conclusively that Fairfax is a business that will consistently generate above-average returns on equity? Tiddman   I ...
ORH to FFH
ericopoly   8/28/2008   
address your question.   The world is the way it is.  Book value for Fairfax is calculated using market prices.  Same with mutual funds and hedge funds.  This ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   8/28/2008   
average returns on equity, but not in a regular fashion. Here is a history of Fairfax's return on equity: 1999 4.3% 2000 4.1% 2001 (11.9%) 2002 12....
9% and the 10 year stock returns are around 19%. So based on this history, Fairfax as a whole has been generating returns on equity well below average, and well below ...
the investment returns. I am very well aware of Fairfax's history and know that this analysis emphasizes a particularly rough period, though 8 years ...
...
Commutation accounting
niels12think   8/28/2008   
words, the charge incurred at commutation is merely an artifact of  the conservative accounting (Fairfax not discounting liabilities to present value). Suppose we have a liability of 100 with a ...

ORH to FFH
oldye   8/28/2008   
My view is reinforced by Fairfax's history, since it has traded at severe discounts to book many times. It has ...
at high premiums (once over 5x I believe) but eventually came back. My valuation for Fairfax hinges around book value, and I tend to buy at discounts and sell at premiums, ...
ORH to FFH
tiddman1   8/28/2008   
returns is greater than the sum of the parts, since the float effectively adds leverage. Fairfax's investment portfolio is about $18.5 billion while book value is about $4.7 ...
returns, but also for increased risk. If Pabrai's portfolio were levered as much as Fairfax's, he would already have been wiped out. I know that this is not a ...
fair comparison since Pabrai is 100% equities while Fairfax is more like 18%, but hopefully you see my point. Whether or not any insurance ...
...
Commutation accounting
mikenhe   8/28/2008   
full amount. <o:p> </o:p> <st1:City><st1:place>Fairfax</st1:place></st1:City> receives cash now (at present discounted amount) and releases ...
reinsurer. The flipside is that the asset on the <st1:City><st1:place>Fairfax</st1:place></st1:City> book (future reinsurance) is not discounted – but the cash ...

ORH to FFH
ericopoly   8/28/2008   
basis is the amount that you should be paying a premium for, IMO.  In Fairfax's case, they deserve a premium to NAV (in my opinion) because I believe the ...
the insurance.   But still, I think I am happy paying a book multiple for Fairfax.     ...

Seminar on Value Investing!
SanjeevParsad   8/28/2008   
you who are not aware, the Ben Graham Chair is funded by Prem Watsa and Fairfax Financial.  The Advisory Board consists of Prem Watsa, Roger Lace, Marty Whitman, Peter Cundill, ...
of gratitude to Ben Graham and Warren Buffett, and our thanks to Prem Watsa and Fairfax Financial, the MSN Berkshire Hathaway Shareholders Board and Corner Market Capital Corp (including the MPIC ...

Maple Leaf Listeria outbreak
cwericb   8/28/2008   
Anyone know who carries Maple Leaf's liability policy? Hopefully Fairfax, Northbridge, etc. have no involvement. At some point there are going to be some substantial ...

Commutation accounting
tiddman1   8/28/2008   
Thanks, that helps a lot, that's some good stuff. In Fairfax's case, the "reinsurance recoverables" was a huge portion of book value in 2003-2004. ...
I think that this and the cash trapped in the trust were the reasons that Fairfax commuted the Swiss Re cover in 2006 and the one that C&F did last ...
quarter. While these might not be the typical reasons, I think this was necessary for Fairfax to decrease their balance sheet risk and improve liquidity. I don't think it's ...

ORH to FFH
tiddman1   8/28/2008   
of Watsa & Co. are worth no more than book value, is the rest of Fairfax, sans investments, worth more than book value? I think the long term track record for ...
Fairfax and subsidiaries is providing a cost of float near zero, i.e. break-even. This ...

Commutation accounting
tiddman1   8/28/2008   
I wonder if someone can help me out with reinsurance commutation accounting, for example Fairfax had another commutation last quarter. It seems to go something like this. The insurance company ...
to do this commutation, for example after an acquisition or investment home run (such as Fairfax's CDS bonanza). But here is the part that I don't quite get. In ...
their Q2 report, Fairfax mentions that a bunch of cash (plus its interest) was tied up in a trust ...

ORH to FFH
oldye   8/27/2008   
on equity over the next decade yet it trades at a huge premium compared to Fairfax. (I think Berkshire is dirt cheap) This conversation is important because we're not bickering ...
ORH to FFH
ericopoly   8/27/2008   
anything.  But you do have to pay more to the tax collector.  If Fairfax books a capital gain, they pay tax.  Then if I sell my shares at ...
pay yet another tax.  There are also rates of tax -- I don't think Fairfax gets the same 15% tax rate that I do on long term capital gains and ...
Finding Management Teams That Care About You
jtvalue   8/27/2008   
mentioned include:   Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.B), Sears Holdings ( SHLD ) Fossil ( FOSL ) K-Swiss ( KSWS ) Fairfax Financial (FFH.T) Overstock.com (OSTK) Oakley ( OO ) The Buckle ( BKE )   Is there any ...

ORH to FFH
woodstov   8/27/2008   
30m share buybacks. Beyond that, we are investors here presumably due to our belief in Fairfax-overall as an investment vehicle, ie safe store of value, with good though lumpy returns ...

Sorry Folks!
SanjeevParsad   8/26/2008   
disagree and hopefully this explanation will make clear the reason why.  With regard to Fairfax's calculation of book value per share, I believe the fact that weighted-average shares ...
yields $229.57 (which just happens to be close to the $230.01 computed by Fairfax on page 1).  To get the exact $230.01 computed by Fairfax, you need ...
page 20) yields $148.84 per share, which differs from the $137.50 reported by Fairfax on page 1.  However, using the 17,805,626 shares outstanding at 12/31/...
...
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Sorry Folks!
SanjeevParsad   8/26/2008   
the universally accepted way of computing book value per share.   Just as an example, Fairfax computes common shareholders' equity per share on page 7 of the 2007 annual report using ...
the universally accepted way of computing book value per share.   Just as an example, Fairfax computes common shareholders' equity per share on page 7 of the 2007 annual report using ...
Sorry Folks!
tooskinneejs   8/26/2008   
Did you get my last post on book value per share at Fairfax as of 12/31/2005? ...
ORH to FFH
Sfvalue1   8/26/2008   
Fairfax has bought back 216,900 of its shares, more than 1% of our outstanding shares " &...

Advent Capital Deal a No-Go For Now!
SanjeevParsad   8/26/2008   
The investment fund that owned the 20% of Advent Capital that Fairfax was expecting to acquire has apparently pulled their letter of intent.  Prem should have ...

ORH to FFH
Partner24   8/26/2008   
over the last 5 years and I'm happy with the recent progress that Fairfax have made, but the "weighing machine" is definitely not doing his job.   Yes, ...
I'm still happy to buy shares of Fairfax on the cheap, but I wonder what it will take to stop this market&...

What happens if Sardar gets hit by a bus?
SanjeevParsad   8/24/2008   
culture, and they have enough talent to preserve shareholder value.   Take a look at Fairfax.  It will never be the same without Prem, but I certainly think they will ...
because of the managers they have in place at Northbridge, Odyssey, C&F and Fairfax Asia.  Who here thinks that Mark Ram would not be a superb replacement ...
business and its remaining management have options?  I remember when the markets thought Fairfax had no options.  That if they didn't raise the cash from Southeastern, Cundill ...

ORH CDS Portfolio
jayhawk884   8/24/2008   
how a government bailout might effect the writers and buyers of that insurance, i.e., Fairfax and subs: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/business/24gret.html?_r=2&ref=...

SEC launches investigation into Daniel Loeb
SanjeevParsad   8/21/2008   
of Spyro Contogouris and his associate Max Bernstein.   Sender admitted buying analyst information on Fairfax from Contogouris.  John Gwynn, who has close ties to Steve Cohen and Adam Sender,&...
It is alledged that Perry worked with Contogouris to disseminate information against target companies, including Fairfax.   Take a read of Fairfax's complaint and lawsuit at:   http://www....
If you take a look at page 71, you'll see which firms participated in Fairfax's conference calls.  Third Point drops off shortly after 2003's calls but reappears ...
...
SEC launches investigation into Daniel Loeb
lessthanIV   8/21/2008   
to Third Point. All of the names of are effectionately known as "The Enterprise" in Fairfax's complaint letter (linked below).   According to Fairfax, Jeff Perry worked closely with Spyro ...
of jail by William Gahan, the head of ICP (Institutional Credit Partners).   Fairfax suggests that Jeff Perry assisted Spyro by orchestrating negative press reports and republishing those ...
contacts at Morgan Keegan is Mr. Gwynn who put out the most outrageous analysis of Fairfax that I can recall. Mr. Gwynn is alleged to have provided advanced notice of&...
...
SEC launches investigation into Daniel Loeb
SanjeevParsad   8/21/2008   
around, as there were many companies who put themselves in a precarious position.  Even Fairfax had bitten off more than they could chew with the TIG & C&F ...
ORH to FFH
mills-man   8/21/2008   
And when meteorologist will expect a quiet hurricane season, buy puts on your Fairfax position. But i really think there is a relation between hurricane season and stock price. ...
because the stock can jump quickly), but it's tempting. The improve financial strenght of Fairfax over time will probably reduce this relation over time. ...

SEC launches investigation into Daniel Loeb
SanjeevParsad   8/21/2008   
nbsp; - Greenberg and his perpetually sweaty shirts and forehead.  - Peter Eavis' forty articles on Fairfax in a six-month period.  - Adam Sender testified that he dealt with Anthony ...

Huge and growing put bet
ericopoly   8/19/2008   
puts is roughly 10,000 contracts (this is close in size to the authorized Fairfax buyback limit of 1,000,000 shares).   Wishful thinking perhaps, but the numbers ...

Guess The Number of Monitors & Win a Prize!
SanjeevParsad   8/19/2008   
Found this terrific shot of Adam Sender...he of the Fairfax lawsuit and Exis Capital.  Guess the number of monitors in the picture and win ...

Good article about Fairfax (in French)
Partner24   8/18/2008   
  ahahah   J'adore faire des cochonnerie...
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
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Good article about Fairfax (in French)
Pohick2   8/18/2008   
nice change from 'value trap'   but i dunno, coul...
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
Partner24   8/18/2008   
In the business context, it means poor businesses, asse...
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
Pohick2   8/18/2008   
what no translation for <<des cochonneries >>?
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
SanjeevParsad   8/18/2008   
Might be easier to read if you go directly to the Google-tra...
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
goodyrl   8/17/2008   
Brands of s' to hang to the life buoy of 64 million dollars launched by Fairfax Financial. Click more: Macro-economy | Investments | Finances (general) | Schools, colleges and colleges | Prem Watsa | Paul ...
Rivett The “magnanimity” of Fairfax Financial is well-known in Ontario, where l' one épie least gestures of this Toronto-...
this champion of the businesses in difficulties remains ignored. That made l' perfectly; business of Fairfax, whose leaders flee the cameras and the microphones. It n' there does not have so ...
...
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
Cardboard12   8/17/2008   
Omagh,   The companies that you mention are very we...
WEST releases 2q 10Q
Cardboard12   8/17/2008   
at SNS before sending more cheques.   Switching has worked in 2003 and 2008 with Fairfax and Odyssey Re or both times where the valuation differential favored ORH. I can't ...

Good article about Fairfax (in French)
omagh   8/17/2008   
Merci Partner! Some of the better companies from Quebec that...
Good article about Fairfax (in French)
Partner24   8/17/2008   
Good, fair and balanced article about Fairfax that was published today (in French only  )   http://lapresseaffaires.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080816/...
ORH to FFH
Broxburnboy   8/13/2008   
Re short selling: I know of at least one fund who is long Fairfax, but regularly lends out its shares to the shorts in order to collect the 15% ...
ORH to FFH
smazz   8/13/2008   
It came about after Fairfax received a call from investment bankers at BMO Nesbitt Burns Inc. last week pitching the ...
idea of an infusion from Fairfax."   you would have to think there is a huge lineup at their door.   ...
Fairfax Suit Heads to Court!
smazz   8/13/2008   
This is one time I would like to see Judge Judy presidi...
Fairfax Suit Heads to Court!
SanjeevParsad   8/13/2008   
Fairfax's lawsuit against ICP is going to trial.  John Gwynn's counterclaim against Farifax ...
ORH to FFH
Cardboard12   8/12/2008   
one factor is now even more important than valuation between the two: we know that Fairfax will get recognition for its investment talent while ORH may not. As the CDS gains ...
ORH to FFH
ericopoly   8/12/2008   
I think that it is finally time for Fairfax to repurchase shares.  Forget the dividend this year.   I think book is roughly $...
275 after adding in the off balance sheet value of Fairfax Asia.  At a price of $230 today, that's a 19.5% immediate return ...
ORH to FFH
Smhood1   8/12/2008   
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080812.RFAIRFAX12/TP   It came about after Fairfax received a call from investment bankers at BMO Nesbitt Burns Inc. last week pitching the ...
idea of an infusion from Fairfax. Within a couple of days, Fairfax officials met with the Bertrand family, which runs Mega Brands. Fairfax chief executive officer Prem ...
of the transaction, the show of faith by the company's founder was key for Fairfax, according to sources familiar with the negotiations. "We're open to this type of thing," ...
...
Fairfax backs Mega Brands refinancing
uccmal2   8/12/2008   
A few more deals like these and the interest and dividend se...
Fairfax backs Mega Brands refinancing
KFRCanuk   8/12/2008   
ROB article http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080811.wrmega12/GIStory <QUOTE>Fairfax chief Prem Watsa says he has confidence in Mega Brands' future. “There has been a ...
SNS will reimburse WEST and LF for proxy fight.
SanjeevParsad   8/11/2008   
against everything he said! - Buffett would never do that!   I think if you ask Fairfax shareholders about the dividend today, they would say it is a very fair and ...

Bringing Down Bear Stearns Began With $1.7M Put Options!
dbcoop24   8/11/2008   
Wouldn't surprise me if it was someone that Fairfax has named in their $6 billion lawsuit. Spending $1.7million on a put that expires ...
a bet for a small one.   This would add some serious credibility to the Fairfax lawsuit. Remember the stocks reaction in November 2006 when Contogouris was arrested for fraud in ...

Fairfax backs Mega Brands refinancing
libor.plus1   8/11/2008   
I like MB, it's a really good company. They just got screwed ...
Fairfax backs Mega Brands refinancing
lessthanIV   8/11/2008   
ISSUE $75 MILLION OF CONVERTIBLE DEBENTURES Mega Brands Inc. has entered into an agreement with Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd.; Chiefswood Holdings Ltd.; the Owners Fund; and Victor J. Bertrand Sr., the ...
private placement $75-million of senior unsecured convertible debentures maturing on Aug. 31, 2013, with Fairfax investing $64-million and Mr. Bertrand investing $7-million in the offering. The proceeds of ...
company like Mega Brands, one of the world's leading toy brands," said Prem Watsa, Fairfax's chief executive officer. "Under the leadership and creative direction of the founding Bertrand family, ...
...
Fairfax backs Mega Brands refinancing
Smhood1   8/11/2008   
has struck a deal to receive an injection of needed financing from Toronto-based insurer Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd. The deal, which is expected to close later this month, involves a $...
75-million private placement of unsecured convertible debentures that mature Aug. 31, 2013. Fairfax will invest $64-million, and Victor J. Bertrand Sr., the company's founder and chairman, ...
will invest $7-million. Fairfax's investment in the manufacturer resembles a deal the insurer did in March to refinance ...
...
Company X
goldfinger   8/8/2008   
am aware of and many posters add great great value here. I was brought to Fairfax by this board, and I don't regret it. I am glad you will continue ...
Company X
SanjeevParsad   8/8/2008   
or pertain to any investment the MPIC Funds or CMC holds including anything about Fairfax.  It's just simpler, and avoids this type of reaction, as well as helps ...
Canwest Woes May Force Fairfax's Hand!
uccmal2   8/6/2008   
This one is good publicity for FFh but really bugs me. ...
Canwest Woes May Force Fairfax's Hand!
SanjeevParsad   8/6/2008   
Here's an article from today's Globe & Mail on Fairfax's investment in Canwest.  What I really like about the article are these comments: &...
in cash at a time when many citizens of corporate Canada are desperate for capital, Fairfax has already played a central role in rebuilding...   ...As the credit crunch plays out, ...
firms like Fairfax are increasingly being looked to as financial saviours. Mr. Rivett said the firm is "getting ...
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FFH bids for additional 20% of Advent Capital Plc
SanjeevParsad   8/5/2008   
It's not going to make much difference.  Fairfax already had 45% control, and will now have 65% control.  Cheers! ...
FFH bids for additional 20% of Advent Capital Plc
Nelis   8/5/2008   
don't understand what all the hubaloo is about.  According to the Conference Call; Fairfax was approached by two shareholders to be bought out (and I guess that was the ...
had to make the same offer to everybody else.  So I don't think Fairfax is "trying" to buy out the company although if they get it - I'm sure ...
Interesting Conceptual Valuation to Fairfax
watsa_is_a_randian_hero   8/4/2008   
So here is an interesting way to look at FFH: 1. The spread...

FFH interest rate hedge
Packer16   8/3/2008   
I am glad Fairfax is selling a good number of the CDSs. I am concerned that they are being ...
FFH interest rate hedge
oldye   8/3/2008   
rationalangle.blogspot.com/2008/08/black-box-insurers.html Good post about European Insurers and Fairfax....
FFH 2nd quarter report
SParsad   8/3/2008   
I am a Fairfax long, yet I call "hyperbole" on that assertion. The idea that Fairfax subsidiaries will shortly be regarded as "close to par" with the claims-paying abilities of ...
Berkshire's insurance subsidiaries is a bit of a stretch. I think Fairfax is already close to par with Markel as far as balance sheet strength, insurance management, ...
Mountains…regardless of what credit rating agencies may say. I believe in 2-3 years, Fairfax’s net uncollateralized exposure to reinsurance recoverable will be well below $1B, holding company debt ...
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Interesting comment from Prem
Cardboard12   8/2/2008   
Reading the Fairfax conference call transcript I found this to be highly interesting:   "Jeff Fenwick - Cormark Securities ...
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